tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post4510507938953698015..comments2024-03-27T04:54:55.570-04:00Comments on THOUGHT EATER: In Search of Strongholds, Part 4: A Stronghold for All SeasonsJeremy "frothsof" Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04663928183049867947noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post-33861656317851414482013-01-20T09:49:40.579-05:002013-01-20T09:49:40.579-05:00To a lesser extent I feel the same about Chain and...To a lesser extent I feel the same about Chain and Scale armour - mundane 'actual' price should be ca 80gp for Chain and 100gp for Scale. But again it won't normally come up in play.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post-81716849803273643922013-01-20T09:47:05.741-05:002013-01-20T09:47:05.741-05:00With magic armour, it all costs 360gp at level 1. ...With magic armour, it all costs 360gp at level 1. I assume that the better the armour is to start with, the easier & cheaper it is to enchant. So a suit of mundane plate is 250gp plus 110gp of reagants/residuum to turn into +1 plate. A suit of 30gp Hide armour would need 330gp of reagants to make +1.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post-33295312443332879302013-01-20T09:44:10.084-05:002013-01-20T09:44:10.084-05:00Re 4e Paladins & Plate - for 4e I tend to assu...Re 4e Paladins & Plate - for 4e I tend to assume the 'real' cost of Plate is much higher than 50gp, probably around x5 - 250gp (so sellable for 50gp) - but that PC Paladins & Knights get it cut price as part of their class background. Or if a Fighter spends an armour proficiency feat at level 1 to get it, that feat also covers most of the real cost of the armour.<br /><br />Since IME no one in 4e ever actually buys mundane armour after start of play, this has never come up, but it's how I think about it in-world. It means that if you want to equip your 100 NPC men at arms in plate armour it will cost a fair bit. :)Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post-90884420108696445482013-01-19T11:23:56.690-05:002013-01-19T11:23:56.690-05:00The 1e DMG numbers are absolutely usable, in fact,...The 1e DMG numbers are absolutely usable, in fact, you should be able to use OD&D, B/X, BECMI, 1e, or 2e prices without too much trouble. The treasure tables are all in the same ballpark. I am going to try to find a medium between very very few guidelines (OD&D), and too much (BECMI), and I want it to be coherent and clear. You will have to keep the 4e weapon/implement and armor prices though, bc players will be priced out of a lot of the stuff. 4e Paladins for example wouldn't be able to afford plate armor at level 1, which is good for old editions but not for 4e. On the flip side, many other prices for mundane gear will go down and be more affordable, which is good bc you aren't getting a lot of cash without working for it. Jeremy "frothsof" Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04663928183049867947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4116097391013897989.post-9213379194151450052013-01-19T10:26:56.797-05:002013-01-19T10:26:56.797-05:00I'm greatly looking forward to seeing your sys...I'm greatly looking forward to seeing your systems! :D<br />My Loudwater Forgotten Realms PCs are soon to hit Paragon level, and I'm very interested in the possibility of strongholds and territory development as a campaign element. The campaign uses Inherent bonuses and limited PC wealth, so it sounds as if your approach to wealth scaling is just what I need (though the 1e DMG numbers are useable I expect, if the PCs actually want to build stuff). <br /><br />I think the players are likely to be most interested in the possibility of (a) defending a place they like and (b) receiving actual in-game benefits for doing so, such as tribute money, or even gifts. Building a castle will be optional but should be possible and beneficial, since I'm planning to take the campaign over 30 years of world-time.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.com